In the previous post we started talking about our passages in Rev. 20:11. and Rev. 21:1 if they refers to the same event. We saw that they had some indirect similarities in semantics and image. We translated the words [pheugo] and [apelthan], each of which means; Pheugo = “run away”, “retreat” or “escape”. in the sense of getting away from an imminent threat. And apelthan = “pass” (at the moment), “going out” or “leave” (from one place to another place or on the road), or to pass away for good for then never to return.
We was also looking at the understanding of things are “lost” (Revelation 21:1) and ended by asking what is the purpose of using the various terms ([pheugo] and [apelthan]) in the associated with “Heaven and Earth “. I will start with the first word, [pheugo], in this post and wait with the other word, apelthan, for the next blog post.
In my quest to show what the Bible tells us in different contexts and places in the Bible, it has been almost impossible for me to avoid some theological terms and interpretation. Some people think I might have been too theological and the translations from Greek / Latin a bit hard to catch etc. I admit it myself, theology and translations of some Greek, Latin and Hebrew words have been used, but it is not easy to avoid it if one like to make explanations of words, images and contexts elsewhere in the Bible.
For those who might think I am trained in both latin and / or greek, or have some theological education, I can tell you right away that I have none of this and I am probably not any better than you in this things. What I can tell you that I do, is reading, not only the Bible but also some books, articles, blogs and notes, some have theological content and maybe that’s why it is so with my blog too. But please, excuse me while I’ll try to make it easier for you to read the blog … yes, with reservation to when I need to elaborate on things more :), otherwise it will just be the plain text from the Bible that you can read yourself in the Bible. …go read and see if it any easier to read my blog!
It have been a long time since I posted something her at my english blog, actually 4 1/2 month since last time. Despite of my lack of posting, both here and on my Norwegian blog, it have come some comments on some of my post. Those post have obvious interested some people more than other post.
One of the post I wrote a while back ago, regarding the Bride and the New Jerusalem which is a part of the blog-series I have about Revelation of John. Not unexpected and very pleasant, there have been questions about these things. It is not entirely unexpected comments from close friends who are “millennial-believers” (dispensationism) and who wish me back to the prokrust-bed. What I have to say is that I’m finished customizing the Scripture and the prophecies to my size of bed, but I think it might be helpful to write a bit more regarding the Bride, the New Jerusalem and New Heaven and New Earth. It may help both, me and you. Continue reading New Creation and The New Jerusalem
“I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more. I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready” (Rev. 21:1-2)
In the previous post we was looking at the New Jerusalem as the new creation which took the place of the old Jerusalem. We looked at the time frame, God’s progressive work in history and a bit superficial of the Bride and its character.
For most people, Revelation 21:1 to 22:5 is an event expected to happen in the future for what they call the “millennium”, and will be the eternal perfect order after the final judgment. But this can not be right, …why? read more to find out!
“I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away, and the sea is no more. I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.” (Rev. 21:1-2)
Now that we have come to Revelation. 21 and will turn to “a new heaven and a new earth”, it may be that those who have followed the series, have a clue of where I go. I want to show that the new heavens and new earth are present, but it probably needs more explanation.
We Christians have been taught to believe that in ‘the end’ we will literally go into the perfect new heavens and new earth, dressed in the new physical body through the physical resurrection. Thus we are taught that Revelation 21:1 to 22:5 is about the Millennium that will come sometime in the future. But what I will argue is that the new creation that John presents here is a present reality as the ‘perfect order’, and will perfectly fulfill and replace. That is a new creation presented as an ideal image of the Christian faith in time and in the soil. Curious how this can be? Continue reading!
“And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.” (Rev. 16:17-21).
Under God’s wrath in the seventh bowl of Revelation. 16, which continues to unfold the events of the year 70, we are witnessed an even more dramatic evidence of the first century fulfillment. There are two characteristics that appear here. One is that the city is divided into three and the other one is the big hail that fell from the sky. Continue reading Revelation pt. 8 – Hail Of An Talent.
“And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” (Rev. 11:8).
I flinched, it was like some thrown a bucket of ice water over me and I froze. I looked down in the Bible and read the verse again … «Yes, it is actually there,» I said to myself. I turn the pages frantically until I find a confirmation. «Yes, there it says …» “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” The Holly Spirit shaken me vigorously and it was as if you had thrown rocks at the kitchen window and freezes when the window shatters and you realize you’ve done something wrong.
Previous post was about the many thoughts that have accumulated after walking trough history and the Bible by the seams, and what is left with the question after all the doomsday prophecy that swirl around and has never been fulfilled. The churches that can be strong in these prophecies is often the churches that have the strongest ties and interest of being Israel supporters, but I do not go into it now.
I have also said I’ll write about the Book of Revelation, which I both dread and look forward to. Ironically enough, the most difficult book of the Bible is called “Revelation”.
It can be difficult to understand the Book of Revelation, but if you enter the book with the right mind without already embedded obstacles and sharp curves that old learning tends to do, things can get a bit simpler.
“Men like the opinions that they have been accustomed from their youth, they defend them, and shuns the opposite views, and this is one of the things that prevent men from finding the truth, for they cling to the opinion of the habit.” Continue reading Revelation pt.1 – How To Read Johns Letter